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From: "Delia Robertson" >
To: >
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [ZA] The kid who drowned, died, then married - Twice!
> Francois, > > Francois Greeff wrote: >> My records show that Jochem Greeff not only died by drowning in 1706 >> and then married Johanna de Vries on 17 May 1716, but also had one >> child by her. Then, on 28 April 1720, he married Anna Elizabeth Graaff >> (van Holland) and had one child by her too. > ---notes in the square brackets are mine--- > > J. Hoge, Personalia of the Germans at the Cape, 1652-1806: Greeff, > Joachim (S Kreff). - "Grootmunder" (Grosz Munzel ?). So[ldier] 1710, > saddler 1711-15. ~[x] (1) 15.6.1716 Johanna de Vries, wid. Pieter > Christiaan de Jager (in the Baptismal Reg., however, the mother of > Greef's children is called Adriaantje Willensz); (2) 28.4.1720 Anna > Elizabeth de Graaff, d. of Dirk Janse de Graaff and Elisabeth Markse, > bapt. 4.2.1703. 3 children. (GMR 1710-15; G.R. nr. 143.) [GMR - > Generale Monsterrollen; G.R. C.D. de Villiers, Geslacht-Register der > oude Kaapshe Familiën] > > J.A. Heese & R.T.J. Lombard, S.A. Genealogies, Vol. 2: Joachim Kreff > a[rriveer] 1710 from Gross Munzel as soldaat. 1711-1715 saalmaker x > 17.5.1716 Johanna de Vries wed[duwee] v[an] Pieter Christiaan de Jager > (die moeder van Greeff se kinders word ook aangegee as Adriaantje > Willems) (sien Personalia pp. 118 & 119) xx Anna Elizabeth de Graaff > d.v. Dirk Janse de Graaff en Elizabeth Markse v.d. Kaap. > > b1 Johannes [b.] 12.9.1717 > b2 Nicolaas [b.] 25.6.1719 > b3 Elizabeth [b.] 29.6.1721 > > Caveat emptor (but hope it helps, anyway). > Delia Robertson
It would, thus, seem that Johannes, Nicolaas and Elizabeth were little Kreff kids - nothing to do with Matthijs and Jochem.
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1696 - Yes, date unknown
