1. | Frederik POTGIETER, b1c7 was born on 25 May 1724 in Swellendam, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 11 Jun 1724 in Swellendam, Cape, South Africa; died on 29 Aug 1786 in Land van Waveren, Cape, South Africa (Tulbagh). Notes:
Burger Stellenbosch
I wrote 9-9-2001: Lesli Langsmith mentioned on the English List that she saw a Bible containing a family tree of Frederik Potgieter listing his 2nd wife, Maria Magdalena LANDMAN's children. It is also mentioned that Frederik first married Eva Catharina KRIEL which is correct according to my data .
In the Bible it is mentioned:
"Deze drie kinderen sijn op Hottentots Holland by Hermanus Kriel op die plaats genaamd Cloetenburg overleden en bij malkander begraven." (almal 1772 oorlede)Translation: These 3 Potgieter/Landman children died at Hottentots Holland on the farm Cloetenburg at Hermanus Kriel and are intered together (all of them died 1772)
This Hermanus Kriel (was married to Elsabe WIUM the widow of Daniel Wynand Malan) was Eva Catharina Kriel's brother: b8 Hermanus Kriel = 14-11-1734, farmer at Drakenstein x ?-12-1766 Elsabe Wium = 26-04-1734, daughter of ancestor Pieter Wium from Vion (Wion)Denmark and Anna de Haase.
From: D&H Garner
To:
Subject: [GenForum] Potgieter Bybel met KRIEL-inligting
Date: 08 September 2001 09:00
Lesli Langsmith het op die Engelse geselslys 'n boodskap gestuur dat sy 'n Bybel gesien het met 'n gelsagsregister van Frederik Potgieter waar sy 2de vrou, Maria Magdalena LANDMAN hulle kinders se name gelys het. Daarin word ook vermeld dat Frederik eers met Eva Catharina KRIEL getroud was wat volgens my data heeltemaal korrek is. In die inskrywing in die Bybel word gemeld:
"Deze drie kinderen sijn op Hottentots Holland by Hermanus Kriel op dieplaats genammd Cloetenburg overleden en bij malkander begraven." (almal 1772 oorlede)
Ek wil graag weet waar "Cloetenburg" geleƫ is. Ek vermoed dit is naStellenbosch se kant toe waar haar broer Hermanus = 1734-11-14,boerDrakenstein x 1766-02 Elsabe Wium = 1734-04-26, dogter van stamvader Pieter Wium vanaf Vion (Wion) Denemarke en Anna de Haase.Elsabe Wium was die weduwee van Daniel Wynand Malan. Hermanus se twee seuns en kleinkinders is in Stellenbosch gedoop. 4 Malan-kinders.
My data:Eva Catharina Kriel = 1727-12-21 x 1748-06-02 Frederik Potgieter =1724-06-11 + 1785-09, burger Stellenbosch, seun van Johan Harmensz Potgieter en Maria Catharina van Eeden. Frederik hertrou 1765-04-07 Maria Magdalena Landman. 8 kinders uit die eerste huwelik.
Baie dankie.
Helena Garner.
Died:
Alternative date: Sep 1785 Stellenbosch
Frederik married Eva Catharina KRIEL, a2b4 on 2 Jun 1748 in Swellendam, Cape, South Africa. Eva was born about 1727; was christened on 21 Dec 1727 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa; died about 1763. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Frederik married Magdalena Maria LANDMAN, b1 on 7 Apr 1765. Magdalena (daughter of Willem LANDMAN, progenitor and Catharina HOFFMAN, a11b2) was born on 20 Jun 1745; was christened on 23 Jun 1748 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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